Friday, September 08, 2006

Apology for 9/11-FMCAT-Muslims against Terrorism))))


We are so Sorry for 9-11

September 11, 2004

By Kamal Nawash

This September 11 marks the third unforgettable anniversary of the worst mass murder in American history.

After September 11 attacks, many in the Muslim world chose denial and hallucination rather than face up to the sad fact that Muslims perpetrated the 9-11 terrorist acts and that we have an enormous problem with extremism and support for terrorism. Many Muslims, including religious leaders, and intellectuals blamed 9-11 on a Jewish conspiracy and went as far as fabricating a tale that 4000 Jews did not show up for work in the World Trade Center on 9-11. Yet others blamed 9-11 on an American right wing conspiracy or the U.S. Government which allegedly wanted an excuse to invade Iraq and steal Iraqi oil.

After numerous admissions of guilt by Bin Laden and numerous corroborating admissions by captured top level Al-Qaida operatives, we wonder, does the Muslim leadership have the dignity and courage to apologize for 9-11? If not 9-11, will we apologize for the murder of school children in Russia? If not Russia, will we apologize for the train bombings in Madrid, Spain? If not Spain, will we apologize for suicide bombings in buses, restaurants and other public places? If not suicide bombings, will we apologize for the barbaric beheadings of human beings? If not beheadings, will we apologize for the rape and murder of thousands of innocent people in Darfour? If not Darfour, will we apologize for the blowing up of two Russian planes by Muslim women? What will we apologize for? What will it take for Muslims to realize that those who commit mass murder in the name of Islam are not just a few fringe elements? What will it take for Muslims to realize that we are facing a crisis that is more deadly than the Aids epidemic? What will it take for Muslims to realize that there is a large evil movement that is turning what was a peaceful religion into a cult?

Will Muslims wake up before it is too late? Or will we continue blaming the Jews and an imaginary Jewish conspiracy? The blaming of all Muslim problems on Jews is a cancer that is destroying Muslim society from within and it must stop.

Muslims must look inward and put a stop to many of our religious leaders who spend most of their sermons teaching hatred, intolerance and violent jihad. We should not be afraid to admit that as Muslims we have a problem with violent extremism. We should not be afraid to admit that so many of our religious leaders belong behind bars and not behind a pulpit. Only moderate Muslims can challenge and defeat extremist Muslims. We can no longer afford to be silent. If we remain silent to the extremism within our community then we should not expect anyone to listen to us when we complain of stereotyping and discrimination by non-Muslims; we should not be surprised when the world treats all of us as terrorists; we should not be surprised when we are profiled at airports. Simply put, not only do Muslims need to join the war against terror, we need to take the lead in this war.

As to apologizing, we will no longer wait for our religious leaders and intellectuals to do the right thing. Instead, we will start by apologizing for 9-11. We are so sorry that 3000 people were murdered in our name. We will never forget the sight of people jumping from two of the highest buildings in the world hoping against hope that if they moved their arms fast enough that they may fly and survive a certain death from burning. We are sorry for blaming 9-11 on a Jewish or right wing conspiracy. We are so sorry for the murder of more than three hundred school children and adults in Russia. We are so sorry for the murder of train passengers in Spain. We are so sorry for all the victims of suicide bombings. We are so sorry for the beheadings, abductions, rapes, violent Jihad and all the atrocities committed by Muslims around the world. We are so sorry for a religious education that raised killers rather than train people to do good in the world. We are sorry that we did not take the time to teach our children tolerance and respect for other people. We are so sorry for not rising up against the dictators who have ruled the Muslim world for decades. We are so sorry for allowing corruption to spread so fast and so deep in the Muslim world that many of our youth lost hope. We are so sorry for allowing our religious leaders to relegate women to the status of forth class citizens at best and sub-humans at worse.

WE ARE SO SORRY

(((((*.."I’m Not Apologizing for Shit I Didn’t Do" by American-muslim Umar Lee



"What do the people who worked in those two (World Trade Center) towers, along with thousands of employees, women and men, have to do with war that is taking place in the Middle East? Or the war that Mr. George Bush may wage on people in the Islamic world?" he asked me. "Therefore we condemned this act - and any similar act we condemn."HASSAN NASRALLAH"(Inside the Mind of Hezbollah)


((Christian Apology for the Crusades and the Legacy of Hatred))But when have Christians demonstrated this love to Muslims or Jews? We have gone to them with swords and guns. We have gone to them with racism and hatred. We have gone to them with feelings of cultural superiority and economic domination. We have gone to them with colonialism and exploitation. We have even gone to them with the Gospel cloaked in arguments of superiority. Only a few have ever gone with the message of Calvary...We must do more than carry the message, we must be the message(Reconciliation Walk)

ΤΗE VICTIMS LIST
Questions about 9/11
What Were The Causes?by Peter Bergen
Michael Moore Fahrenheit 9/11 Controversy
The six key Lessons of September eleventh
Interesting Articles on the attacks of 9/11
Contrast Photos by Hellenic Reporter
Oriana Falacci "The Rage and the Pride"La Rabbia e l' Orgoglio"
Δυο κείμενα για την 11η Σεπτεμβρίου απο τον Νίκο Δημου
Οι Ηπα μετά το τρομοκρατικó χτύπημα του Πάσχου Μανδραβέλη
Είμαστε όλοι Στόχοι(e-rooster)
Θεωρίες Συνωμοσίας και αναπάντητα ερωτήματα
Xαμένοι στη μετάφραση-Πρόσχημα για πόλεμο-
Εκλογές μεσα στον πόλεμο-Ρεπορτάζ χωρίς Σύνορα
Sibel Dinez Edmonds Whistleblower Case
"World Trade center" film by Oliver Stone
"United 93"film about the crashed plane in Pennsylvania
Sonic Jihad by Paris,Ave Bushani
Sonic Jihad by Paris -What would you do?(song)
911Truth.org-911Myths.com-Wiki-NewAmerican.com
Tribute to 9/11.Click here to listen to Songs about 9/11)
Full Coverage 5th Anniversary by Yahoo News
Τhey 've hijacked my religion(Cat Stevens)
Hating Bin Laden by Thanos Kalamidas-Ovi-Magazine
Imagine the Twin Towers Hadn't Fallen on 9/11(Tom Engelhardt)
*Good Evening my fellow Americans*(a speach that Bush could give to the Nation*)

86 comments:

Ergotelina said...



.....................
Heaven 9/11 by DJ Sammy
......................


It's been a year daddy
I really really miss you
Mommie says you're safe now
in a beautiful place called Heaven
We have your favorite dinner tonight
I ate it all up
even though i don't like carrots
I learned how to swim this summer
I can even open my eyes
when i'm under water
Can't you see me?
I started kindergarten this year
I carry around a picture of us
in my Blue's Clues lunchbox
You are the greatest daddy
I can swing on the swing by myself
even though i miss you pushing me
Can't you see me?
I miss how you used to tickle me
Tickle my belly
My belly hurts
I try not to cry
Mommie says it's ok
I know you don't like it when i cry
Never wanted me to be sad
I try daddy but it hurts
Is it true you're not coming home?
Maybe some day
I can visit you in Heaven, ok?
It's time for me to go to bed now
I sleep with the light on
just in case you come home
and kiss me good night
I love you so much
I miss you daddy


((((LISTEN))))

Alkyoni said...

θέλησα απλά να σου πω μια καλημέρα
Όταν θα χω χρόνο θα διαβάσω όσα απ το blogk σου δεν διάβασα ακόμα.
Φιλιά
:)

ioannisk said...

@ergo

που είναι;;;;;

που ειναι ο πισοφμαν;;;;

dodos said...

Ανεξάντλητη, όπως πάντα!
Θα μού πάρει ημέρες να διαβάσω όλες τις παραπομπές... Θα επανέρχομαι, λοιπόν.

Deepak Gopi said...

Hi
back after a short break.
100% of the Indians dont use spoons.Indians dont get satisfaction if they use.
In paries most of them use.But even in parties I dont use.
Thanks for the music.
My Philosophy "food is god ,it should be respected touched and ate .

fatwords said...

Αυτοί οι μουσουλμάνοι, πήρανε πιστοποιητικό γνησιότητας από τον Βασεμ? Μήπως πρόκειται για μαϊμού μουσουλμάνους σαν τους Wahhabi? Μήπως είναι δάκτυλος των σιωνιστών, με απώτερο σκοπό να κατακυριεύσουν και τον ισλαμικό κόσμο? (Ηρέμισε, μη βαράς, απλές αθώες ερωτήσεις κάνω…)

belinha said...

Hello!I'm at a cybercafe because I needed to check my emails.I still don't have my computer.And I still don't know if they will manage to save my stuff in it....I'm glad to find all these messages from my Blogger friends.
Last night I saw an interesting british doc in Tv.It was directed by Peter Jenkins and gives us a tour in countries like Pakistan, Morocco,Turky,Malasia,Indonesia.It shows how common people and some government leaders look at muslim religion,their ideas and difficulties on dealing with moderate and more conservative opinions on it and how they live the cult in their ordinary lifes.All week Tv is showing us all kinds of doc on 11 September...
I'll be back...soon...I hope!
Have a nice weekend!

Margaret said...

I awoke that morning. -

to 19 acts of Hate.

I went to sleep that evening -

having witnessed countless acts of love.

Ergotelina said...

@Alkyoni
Να σαι καλά
να τα λέμε

@ioannisk
Bρε τον
>Πισμαν
...Τον περιμένω
...τον αποπήρα λίγο
και τωρα πρεπει να τον καλοπιάσω...
:)


@dodos
Kαι τα δικά σου εργα
επιδέχονται πολλαπλές ερμηνείες

@Deepak Gopi

Interesting point of view
Eating with fingers is more
pleasant...i understand..
:)if you have washed
your hands....

Any way..Peace be upon India fighting terror

Ergotelina said...

@_ecevit_
Ο Βασεμ θα τους ξερει..
σιγουρα γιατί μενει Αμερικη...
Ομως εδω και μια βδομαδα
που επέστρεψε στη Συρία..
τον εχουμε χασει..κατι παίζει
με το Internet εκει...
Πολλές χώρες στη Μεση Ανατολη
δεν εχουν δικός τους google
και απο λογοκρισία να φαν και τα ποντίκια...

Χαθηκε και ο
Βάσεμ..

Ergotelina said...

@Belinha
9/11 Τhose days
A lot of viruses....

Welcome back amiga...
:)

Do you mean the
documentary film
Turning the Terrorists
Followed by Q&A with producer Paul Jenkins and reporter Peter Taylor

Peter Taylor travels to South East Asia, long Al-Qaeda’s recruiting, training and planning base, to see how successful the region has been in fighting the international terrorist threat. The region is Al Qaeda’s new Afghanistan and attracts jihadis from the UK and all over the world.

Taylor meets key figures who local authorities have persuaded to change sides including Nasir Abas, a former senior member of Jemaah Islamiya in Indonesia (J.I.), the Al Qaeda linked terrorist organisation responsible for the Bali bombings.

Today Abas not only provides the authorities with intelligence on his former comrades but talks to them after they’ve been arrested and tries to convince them that they followed the wrong path.

Ergotelina said...

@Margaret
went to sleep that evening
having witnessed countless acts of love...

Nice comment you wrote

Hate can be beaten by Love

A Speech George W. Bush
Could Give to the Nation

By Doug Morris

Good evening, my fellow Americans


St. Augustine said that "hope has two beautiful daughters: anger and courage. Anger at the way things are, and courage to struggle to create things as they should be." These acts perpetrated against humanity on Tuesday were acts of anger at the way things are. They were not courageous acts, but horrendous atrocities, acts of anger laced with hate. Our first response must be support and compassion for the victims, and families and friends of the victims. But, in addition, we should ask ourselves "what conditions led these fellow humans to develop such anger and hatred, led them to commit such abominably inhumane acts, and why was it directed at these particular targets in the United States?"


We should not repress our anger and indignation at these hateful and callous acts, or our anger and indignation at all hateful and callous acts, but our anger must be accompanied not by hate, but with love, and by the courage to struggle to create a more just world, and THAT my fellow Americans will require a major effort to question, understand, challenge, change and raise OUR national consciousness. Please, my fellow Americans, listen with open ears, open minds and open hearts. .........................

............................
let us remember and reflect upon the words stated in Corinthians 13:1-3 by Saint Paul: "though I may speak with the voice of angels; though I may understand all the mysteries; though I may have all the knowledge; though I may give all to feed the poor; though I may give my body to be burnedif I have not love, I have nothing at all."

Thank you. Good night, and blessings, peace, justice, solidarity and love for all humanity.

And now, my fellow Americans, in order to assist us in developing a much deeper understanding of all of these issues, I have invited MIT professor Noam Chomsky to share his views. Professor Chomsky will have unlimited time.
Thank you. Professor Chomsky, welcome.

Vrennus said...

Να απολογηθούν όλοι οι Μσουσουλμάνοι για όσα έκανε ο Μπιν Λάντεν κι ο Μπασάγιεφ... Πόσο αξιολύπητος αυτός ο Kamal Nawash... αν και κατανοώ κάπου τη στάση του, υποψήφιος γερουσιαστής στην πολιτεία της Βιρτζίνια, πρέπει να μεζάψει καμμιά ψήφο ο άνθρωπος. Προτιμώ χίλιες φορές τη στάση του Umar Lee (με το φανταστικό motto στο profile του "When I turn my cheek I'm reaching for my gun"!)

Να απολογηθούμε κι εμείς τότε, ως Χριστιανοί, για τις ατομικές βόμβες που 'ριξαν κάποιοι άλλοι Χριστιανοί στη Χιρισίμα και το Ναγκασάκι, ν' απολογηθούμε και για την αποικιοκρατία και για όλα! Δεν κατάλαβα.

Ο θλιβερός Kamal Nawash δεν κάνει τίποτε περισσότερο από το ν' αναπαράγει τα ιδεολογήματα περί σύγκρουσης των πολιτισμών, λες κι η πηγή του κακού είναι ο θρησκευτικός φανατισμός κι όχι οι ερπύστριες των τάνκς. Όχι, δεν θα πάρουμε!

dodos said...

Αυτές οι αιτήσεις συγγνώμης που δεν επιφέρουν καμμιά πρακτική συνέπεια στον αιτούντα, τι σκοπό έχουν;

dr.Uqbar said...

Ναι ,...πολύ υλικό. Too much information!
ελπίζω να διαμορφώσουμε άποψη

Ergotelina said...

@Vrennus

Θα επανέλθω..

Αφου δεν σ αρεσει ο Καμαλ
Ναουάς και οι απολογίες.........
Διάβασε τον γαλλοθρεμένο
αριστερό
Αdonis,an Arab poet seeking a new Arab society

Ergotelina said...

Τί λένε οι δικοί μας Μουσουλμάνοι;;

…….Έχουμε κουραστεί κάθε φορά που συμβαίνει ένα τρομοκρατικό χτύπημα να μας κοιτάζουν καχύποπτα και να μας βλέπουν σαν τρομοκράτες………

……..Υψώνουν τα χέρια τους και ζητούν από τον Αλλάχ να συγχωρέσει τους «αδελφούς» για το έγκλημά τους και μονολογούν, «πάλι η Ασφάλεια θα βρίσκεται έξω από το τζαμί………..

…………Ειλικρινά δεν μπορώ να πιστέψω ότι ο γιος μου θα μπορούσε να ζωστεί με μια βόμβα και να τινάξει αθώους Έλληνες στο Μετρό, στο όνομα του Αλλάχ…………..

…………Υπήρχαν άνθρωποι που έλεγαν ανοικτά πως υποστήριζαν τον Μπιν Λάντεν και την Αλ Κάιντα και δεν τους ενοχλούσε κανένας. Ίσως όμως οι άνθρωποι που μετέτρεψαν μικρά παιδιά σε βομβιστές να ήταν ορισμένοι που παρανόησαν τις ελευθερίες που τους δόθηκαν», λέει ο Ασίφ που ζητάει τη γνώμη του ιμάμη για το τι πρέπει να λέει στα παιδιά του ώστε να μη γίνουν έστω και κατά λάθος φανατικοί.
Παραδέχεται όμως ότι ολοένα και πιο συχνά ακούει συμπατριώτες του που μιλούν πιο φανατικά από ό,τι συνήθιζαν για τον Αλλάχ………….

……………Τα τελευταία χρόνια έχουν γίνει πολλές τέτοιες επιθέσεις στην Αίγυπτο, ενώ όταν είχαν σκοτωθεί εκεί Έλληνες τουρίστες πραγματικά ήθελα να ζητήσω συγγνώμη από όλους στην Ελλάδα για τη συμπεριφορά αυτών των ηλίθιων δολοφόνων», εκμυστηρεύεται ο Γιοζέφ. Το μόνο που θέλει είναι να μεγαλώσει τα παιδιά του εδώ και να τα κρατήσει μακριά από όσους χρησιμοποιούν το Κοράνιο ως έμπνευση εκδίκησης……………..
……………….«Μουσουλμάνοι μορφωμένοι στη Σαουδική Αραβία με περίεργες ιδέες έρχονται ως ιμάμηδες και στην Ελλάδα»……………
…………..(του Στέλιου Βραδελη)
Eίμαστε οι παράπλευρες απώλειες των επιθέσεων

Ergotelina said...

@Dodos
Ο συγκεκριμένος πολιτεύεται
και ίσως να χει
πρακτικές συνέπειες
της συγγνώμης του...
:)
Πάντως δεν μπήκε στη βουλή το 2004...
Τι να σημαίνει αυτό;;......
:?

@DJ.Uqbar
Thank you for your
list you gave me..
MORE MUSIC ABOUT 9/11

))))•Window: 9/11 των Eve Packer & Noah Howard
http://www.noahhoward.com/discography.html

)))))•The Mix Tape Before 9/11 του Mobb Deep
http://www.mp3.com/albums/648084/summary.html

)))))• 9/11 America Suite από Alan Lorber Orchestra
http://www.emusic.com/album/10940/10940585.html

)))))• 911 September 11 the Album by David Laurence
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dlaurence

andFahrenheit 9/11 Soundtrack

Vrennus said...

Ergo te lina, δε μου διέφυγε ο Άραβας Άδωνις/Αντώνιος. Από τη μια ο απολογητής Ναουάς από την άλλη ο οραματιστής Άδωνις/Αντώνιος (σίγουρα θα υπάρχει και η απαραίτητη Αφροδίτη/Κλεοπάτρα!)

fatwords said...

It's Murder for Non-Moslems

September 8, 2006: The 32 months of violence in the Moslem south have so far caused nearly 4,300 casualties (40 percent of them fatal). During that period, there were some 5,500 incidents of Islamic terrorist violence. That's an average of 5-6 a day, among a population of 2.4 million (some 80 percent Moslem). The violence was largely directed at the 400,000 or so non-Moslems. The terrorist attacks have had the effect of doubling the normal murder rate in the south. A religiously inspired crime wave, so to speak. But the terror is very real as well, especially for non-Moslems. Since most of the deaths are among the non-Moslem minority, the death rate for that community has risen to about 15 per 100,000 per year. The rate in the U.S. is about 6 per 100,000 people per year.

While the number of bombings has increased this year, the casualty rate has gone down. This is largely because of the thousands of additional soldiers and police sent to the south. These security forces are everywhere down there. But the damage has already been done, and thousands of non-Moslem Thais have fled the south. The main objective of the Islamic terrorists is to expel all non-Moslems from the south, and then set up a religious dictatorship.

September 6, 2006: So far, five soldiers have been arrested for taking part in recent bombing attempts on the prime minister. So the attacks were apparently not a ploy by the prime minister to win sympathy.

September 4, 2006: The 21 bank branches that were bombed on August 31st, all reopened. Seven men have been arrested for participating in the bombing operation, and three of them have admitted their role.

September 1, 2006: The government is giving army and police commanders more freedom of action in the south, leaving it to them to come up with new ideas, and carry them out quickly.

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/thai/articles/20060908.aspx

Deepak Gopi said...

Hi
Why Havent u visited my new post.
Please dont think that they are the excellent films ever made in India.
Criterion for my selection is the degree of entertainment it provided to me.Some of them were utter flops at the box office.

Ergotelina said...

Deepak i ll visit you
to see the bollywood
movies titles

Ecevit

According to the last census (2000) 94.6% of Thais are Buddhists of the Theravada tradition. Muslims are the second religious group in Thailand at 4.6%. However, these statistics err heavily in favor of Buddhists, as many provinces and towns south of Chumporn have dominant Muslim populations, the real Islamic population figure could be as high as 15%, including many ethnic Thai. Often Muslims live in separate communities from non-Muslims. The southern tip of Thailand are mostly ethnic Malays and they are mostly concentrated in the south, where they form a strong majority in four provinces. Christians, mainly Catholics, represent 0.75% of the population. A tiny but influential community of Sikhs and some Hindus also live in the country's cities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand

StrategyPage.com

Μπορεις να αγορασεις και conservative t-shirts......

+Viva la Reagan Revolution+....
+Say no to Communist Hilary+.....
+Real Men wear stripes+...
+Celebrate Diversity Gun+....
+A Nation of Riflemen+...


http://thoseshirts.com/

Δες και το δευτερο video του Post
να νιώσεις πιο Αμέρικαν...απο τον Carlos Mencia - America vs Terrorists

Ergotelina said...

@Vrennus

αυτο θα σου αρεσει...


...........
I remember the first time I met Kamal Nawash. At that time he was running for political office in Northern Virginia. As an Arab-American, and someone with a Muslim name he was canvassing the Muslim community for votes and showing up at the meetings and conferences of all the major Muslim organizations (including those who he now brands as extremists and terror supporters).

Because I have received my education from the streets and not from ivory-tower academics, I am a good judge of character and when I saw Nawash I had two initial impressions; he is a sleazy politician that cant be trusted and he some how immediately looked and reminded me of Mr. Burns from The Simpsons........................


I wrote in an editorial for the Muslim Link encouraging Muslims not to vote for Kamal Nawash. It was my argument that supporting the Democratic candidate, whose political stances were more representative with the majority of Muslims in Northern Virginia, was preferable to voting for just someone with a Muslim name who was seeking to exploit the community.
Kamal Nawash a Muslim Fraud by Umar Lee

Ergotelina said...

Free Muslims Against Terrorism, Or More Deception?


Why Muslims do not support him? It is because Jihad cannot be separated from Islam. Muslims know that. Mr. Nawash also knows that. By denouncing terrorism Mr. Nawash is not making Muslims more peaceful. To do that one has to denounce the Quran and Mr. Nawash is not willing to do that. In fact he still calls Islam his “beloved” religion and in his website he has stated: “The Free Muslims Coalition does not seek to change the tenets of the religion. However, the Coalition believes that the Koran only provides general principals of governance which leaves the faithful with substantial flexibility to modernize popular Muslim practices and beliefs.”

This statement is false and misleading. The Quran says unbelievers are filthy; Allah dislikes them, they will be fuels of hell and it orders Muslims to slay them. There is no equivocation in that and no amount of reinterpretation can change the obvious message of hate of that book.

So why is Mr. Nawash speaking against terrorism and claming to be a Muslim at the same time?

There are two possibilities.

a) Mr. Nawash is trying to pull wool over the eyes of the Westerners, by telling them what THEY want to hear and by giving them more false hopes that Islam has a peaceful side as well. In this way he will buy more time for Islam to wreak havoc.

b) Mr. Nawash, taking advantage of the gullibility of the Westerners and their lack of understanding of Islam has found a way to promote himself and this is nothing but a personal ego trip.


by Ali Sina is the founder of Faith Freedom International, a secularist organization dedicated to persuading Muslims to leave Islam. His website describes him as an ex-Muslim and as a Canadian writer of Iranian descent.

PeaceMan said...

* * * *
Since its founding in 1994, the Council on American-Islamic Relations and its employees have combined, conspired,
and agreed with third parties, including, but not limited to, the Islamic Association for Palestine (“IAP”), the
Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (“HLF”), the Global Relief Foundation (“GRF”), and foreign
nationals hostile to the interests of the United States, to provide material support to known terrorist organizations,
to advance the Hamas agenda, and to propagate radical Islam. The Council on American-Islamic Relations,
and certain of its officers, directors, and employees, have acted in support of, and in furtherance of, this conspiracy.

-- Points to Ponder --
CAIR Employees And Officials Support Terror

Senior CAIR employee Randall Todd Royer, a/k/a “Ismail” Royer, pled guilty and was sentenced to twenty years in prison
for participating in a network of militant jihadists centered in Northern Virginia. He admitted to aiding and abetting three persons
who sought training in a terrorist camp in Pakistan for the purpose of waging jihad against American troops in Afghanistan.
Royer’s illegal actions occurred while he was employed with CAIR.

CAIR's Director of Community Relations, Bassem Khafagi , was arrested by the United States due to his ties with a
terror-financing front group. Khafagi pled guilty to charges of visa and bank fraud, and agreed to be deported to Egypt.
Khafagi’s illegal actions occurred while he was employed by CAIR.

On December 18, 2002, Ghassan Elashi, founding board member of CAIR-Texas, a founder of the Holy Land Foundation,
and a brother-in-law of Musa Abu Marzook , was arrested by the United States and charged with, among other things,
making false statements on export declarations, dealing in the property of a designated terrorist organization, conspiracy
and money laundering. Ghassan Elashi committed his crimes while working at CAIR, and was found Guilty.

CAIR Board Member Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing,
has called for replacing the American government with an Islamic caliphate, and warned that America will crumble
unless it accepts Islam.

Rabih Haddad served as a CAIR Fundraiser. Haddad was co-founder of the Global Relief Foundation (“GRF”).
GRF was designated by the US Treasury Department for financing the Al Qaida and other terrorist organizations
and its assets were frozen by the US Government on December 14, 2001.

Ergotelina said...


"ISLAM is PEACE" Says President GW BUSH

THEY LOVE AMERICA JUST AS MUCH AS I DO


He is a smart guy..
Has been misled then?...

Ergotelina said...

.....Critics point to several public comments, including those made by Omar Ahmad, who told a crowd of Californian Muslims in July 1998: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth." In 1994, Nihad Awad declared during a meeting at Barry University that he was a "supporter of the Hamas movement.....


Criticism of CAIR(Wiki)

fatwords said...

Ergo,

thanks for your concerns,
but I have already some very progressive T-shirts.
I can sell you one,
it's writtten on it

"Freedom to Muslims
Fight Islam"


Send me your payments,
so I can hand it over.

Ergotelina said...

So you make profit.....selling T-shirts....
:)


FIGHT FOR A FIGHT MAKES FREEDOM
BLIND..........................


I understand that you are
passionate secular
i remember you had said that
would not allow Merve Kavakci to take her oath of office wearing a muslim headscarf.

Headscarf row in Turkey parliament

She was eventually stripped of her Turkish citizenship, on the grounds that she had taken United States citizenship on March 5, 1999, and had not disclosed this when running for office in Turkey.

She has a degree in computer science obtained at the University of Texas at Dallas, and she is a hafiz.

She is a modern woman...don't you think?....

Merve_KavakciWiki(Mαίρη Καβακτζή)

Ergotelina said...

Οι επετειακές δηλώσεις του Γεωργιου
Μπους****************************

Anniversary Statements
by President
G W Bush*****************************

WAR ON TERROR......................
HISTORY TEACHES...................

Η ιστορία μας διδάσκει ότι το να υποτιμήσουμε τα λόγια του Κακού είναι τρομερό λάθος. Στις αρχές του 20ου αιώνα ένας εξόριστος δικηγόρος στην Ευρώπη δημοσίευεσε ένα φυλλάδιο με τον τίτλο "Τι να κάνουμε;", στο οποίο εξέφρασε το σχέδιο του να προκαλέσει κομμουνιστική επανάσταση στη Ρωσία. Ο κόσμος δεν έλαβε υπόψη τα λόγια του Lenin και πλήρωσε ένα φοβερό τίμημα. Η Σοβιετική Αυτοκρατορία, την οποία ίδρυσε, σκότωσε δεκάδες εκατομμυρίων και έφερε τον κόσμο στα πρόθυρα θερμοπυρηνικού πολέμου. Στη δεκαετία του 1920 ένας αποτυχημένος Αυστριακός ζωγράφος εξέδωσε ένα βιβλίο, στο οποίο εξηγούσε το σχέδιό του να κτίσει ένα Υπερ-κράτος Αρίων στη Γερμανία, να εκδικηθεί την Ευρώπη και να εξοντώσει του Εβραίους. Ο κόσμος αγνόησε τα λόγια του Hitler και πλήρωσε ένα φοβερό τίμημα. Το ναζιστικό καθεστώς του σκότωσε εκατομμύρια στους θαλάμους αερίων και προκάλεσε την ανάφλεξη του πολέμου πριν ηττηθεί οριστικά με τρομερό κόστος ανθρωπίνων ζωών.
O Bin Laden και οι τρομοκράτες σύμμαχοί του έχουν καταστήσει σαφείς τις προθέσεις τους, όπως ο Lenin και ο Hitler πριν απ΄αυτούς. Το ερώτημα είναι: θα ακούσουμε; Θα προσέξουμε τι λένε αυτοί οι διαβολικόι άνρθωποι; Η Αμερική και οι συμμαχοί μας έχουμε επιλέξει. Παίρνουμε τα λόγια τους στα σοβαρά. Βρισκόμαστε σε άμυνα και δεν θα αναπαυθούμε, δεν θα υποχωρήσουμε, δεν θα αποσυρθούμε από τη μάχη εώς ότου αυτή η απειλή για τον πολιτισμό έχει εξαλειφθεί.
(Χειροκροτήματα)Sociothoughts.




History teaches that underestimating the words of evil and ambitious men is a terrible mistake. In the early 1900s, an exiled lawyer in Europe published a pamphlet called "What Is To Be Done?" -- in which he laid out his plan to launch a communist revolution in Russia. The world did not heed Lenin's words, and paid a terrible price. The Soviet Empire he established killed tens of millions, and brought the world to the brink of thermonuclear war. In the 1920s, a failed Austrian painter published a book in which he explained his intention to build an Aryan super-state in Germany and take revenge on Europe and eradicate the Jews. The world ignored Hitler's words, and paid a terrible price. His Nazi regime killed millions in the gas chambers, and set the world aflame in war, before it was finally defeated at a terrible cost in lives.

Bin Laden and his terrorist allies have made their intentions as clear as Lenin and Hitler before them. The question is: Will we listen? Will we pay attention to what these evil men say? America and our coalition partners have made our choice. We're taking the words of the enemy seriously. We're on the offensive, and we will not rest, we will not retreat, and we will not withdraw from the fight, until this threat to civilization has been removed.

(Applause.)White House

Ergotelina said...

Θεωρίες συνωμοσίας και εναλλακτικές θεωρίες για το τι συνέβη ((Eλευθεροτυπία))

Deepak Gopi said...

Hi Ergo Ti Lina
That film has nothing to do with
Muslim religion.It is a triangular love story with lot of action.
An actor called Feroz Khan directed and acted in the movie.
It was released vin the year 1980.
I enjoy this film.It has fantastic songs and god action sequences.

fatwords said...

Astonishing what happens in Turkey nowadays. That reminds me of another madness:
“People must get aware that Islam is not to be taken equal to any other religion. Islam is about to prevail as the only culture of this region, and in the whole world.” [Hamas] Hence…enter my club, buy my T-shirts. Better be blind and deaf out of rage than being an Islamofascist.

onlinehelp said...

οταν ημουν στο δημοτικο μας ελεγε η δασκαλα οτι μετα τον Β παγκοσμιο πολεμο δεν γινονται πολεμοι και ζουμε ειρηνικα λογω του ΟΗΕ και αρες μαρες.

Ο πολεμος δεν υπαρχει επειδη υπαρχουν οι φονταμενταλιστες. Οι βιομηχανιες οπλων προωθουν τον Πολεμο (εξαιρετικα ντοκυμαντερ του Κουλογλου).

ΟΙ φονταμενταλιστες απλα δινουν, σαν μαλακες, την αφορμη.

Καταληγω οτι η αμερικη φταιει παντα,εκεινη πρωτη εχει σκοτεινες διαθεσεις και ατελειωτη αλαζονία.

onlinehelp said...

Κανε διαιτα ή πες του Τουρκου σεφ που εχεις σπιτι σου να σου κοψει το λιπος.

Παρε για παραδειγμα την Γιαννα Δασκαλακη, πως ηταν και πως εγινε, αφου θες να γινεις ελληνιδα βουλευτης κανονισε να γινεις συλφιδα σαν κι αυτην. Ισως πετυχεις και κανενα καλο γαμβρόν.

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Ergotelina said...

@Αnula

Οι Τουρκοι Σεφ το ξερω,παχαίνουν

ευχαριστώ για τις

συμβουλες....

Λεω να ξεκινησω μεσογειακη διαιτα
μετα τις εκλογες...

Ecevit

Υου have mixed up moderate and radical Islam

It s not the same...

Ergotelina said...

Ο Έλληνας πυροσβέστης Κρις Γεωργίου μιλάει για τις δραματικές στιγμές που ζουν εγκλωβισμένοι και διασώστες στη Νέα Υόρκη
TA NEA


Άργησε στη δουλειά και έτσι γλίτωσε......................

Τύχη βουνό. Ο χρηματιστής Κρις Γεωργίου άργησε να ξυπνήσει και δεν πήγε εγκαίρως στη δουλειά του στους Πύργους. Έτσι σώθηκε

Ξάδελφος του πυροσβέστη, με το ίδιο όνομα και επίθετο, ο 30χρονος χρηματιστής Κρις Γεωργίου, Γιαννιώτης και αυτός, θα ήταν σήμερα μεταξύ των αγνοουμένων, αν δεν είχε κοιμηθεί περισσότερο και την ώρα που το δεύτερο αεροπλάνο προσέκρουε στον όροφο όπου βρισκόταν και το γραφείο του, αυτός ήταν ακόμη στον δρόμο... Αυτή ήταν πραγματικά τύχη βουνό, γιατί ο Κρις ήταν πάντα ακριβής στην ώρα που πήγαινε στη δουλειά του. Τον εντοπίσαμε στο εστιατόριο του πεθερού του, όπου όλοι προσπαθούσαν να τον κάνουν να ξεπεράσει το σοκ. «Έχασε πολλούς φίλους και συναδέλφους. Δεν ξέρω πόσοι γλίτωσαν. Το δεύτερο αεροπλάνο καρφώθηκε στον όροφο τον δικό μας. Μετά κατέρρευσε το κτίριο. Εκεί θάφτηκαν όλα... Δεν μπορούσα να πιστέψω σε αυτά που έβλεπα. Περιφερόμουν γύρω από τα ερείπια σαν χαμένος... Οι δικοί μου είχαν τρελαθεί από την αγωνία και εγώ δεν σκέφτηκα ούτε ένα τηλέφωνο να τους πάρω... Το έκανα ύστερα από πολλές ώρες, ή μάλλον πρώτη τούς καθησύχασε η γυναίκα μου που ήξερε ότι είχα αργήσει να πάω και την ώρα του κακού δεν είχα φτάσει ακόμη στο γραφείο μου...». Σταματάει για λίγο και συνεχίζει σαν να μονολογεί: «Χάθηκαν όλα... Χάθηκαν αγαπημένοι φίλοι και συνάδελφοι...»

Ergotelina said...

MUSLIMS VICTIMS of Terrorist Attack, September 11, 2001


CAIR has received over 542 anti-Muslim hate incidents as of today 9/19. I just wanted people to know that there were Muslim victims and still are Muslim victims of continuing hate crimes. When will the hate end?

................................

onlinehelp said...

εχμ, "η βια ειναι τυφλή", σοφή κουβέντα

onlinehelp said...

υπαρχει κανεις που να λεει οτι οι "σταυροφοροι" (ετσι τους λεει ο μπιν λαντεν) δεν εκαναν εγκλήματα τον μεσαιωνα, και στην αποικιοκρατια που ακολουθησε?

Απλα τοτε δεν υπηρχε τηλεοραση να τους κατακεραυνωσει!!!

Gavrilos said...
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Gavrilos said...

Muslims Victims...

For Usama Bin Ladin

They might not be good muslims
working in the capitalistic
center of
"sinful and evil New York".......

Ergotelina said...

Is Osama Bin Laden a good muslim?

Islam condems suicide..

I have also noticed that
Many Muslims of other
countries dispute
the hegemonic
Saudi Arabic view
of Islam



ON THE CONTRARY

THAT S GOOD NEWS...


There is a deep symbolism in the fact that a Muslim artist based in New York is
the author of one of the projects to rebuild the site where the World Trade Center used to be.
Roustam Nour, a 38-year old immigrant from Russia is known
to many New Yorkers as one of the most successful street artists in the city.
In 2001 The New York Times published a long article about him and his creative
and commercial endeavors (A Street Artist Finds a Room With a View, July 8,
2001).

A MUSLIM WANTS TO REBUILD WHAT OTHER MUSLIMS DESTROYED

Ergotelina said...

W H Y?............................




PLAUSIBLE BUT FLAWED THEORIES


1.Poverty

2.Madrasas.(religious schools)

They hate us because of the freedom-loving people we are. President Bush has been the principal exponent of this view. In 2004 Bin Laden responded by asking why, if this were true, had he not attacked freedom-loving Sweden

3.The CIA. The notion that Bin Laden is a CIA creation, and that the attacks on the Trade Centre and Pentagon were "blowback," is a standard analysis among leftists

4.Weak and failing states It is a staple of international relations theorists that weak and failed states are attractive bases for terrorists and criminals. That the 9/11 attack was first hatched in 1996 as al Qaeda moved its base from a weak state, Sudan, to a failed state, Afghanistan, seems to underline this theory.

5.Saudi financiers. Little or no hard evidence has been proffered for the claim that Saudi financiers were sponsoring al Qaeda, and the 9/11 report determined that there was no evidence that the money for the attacks came from Saudi Arabia.

6.The Saudis in general
This is also the contention of many of the families of the victims of the 9/11 attacks, who have signed on to a class action lawsuit against a range of Saudi institutions and individuals. In this view, the Saudi royal family made an unholy alliance with the purist Wahabbi sect and exported Wahabbism in order to shore up its shaky credibility as the custodian of the holy places of Mecca and Medina

7.The clash of civilisations. Samuel Huntington famously predicted that clashes between civilisations would replace cold war rivalries

7.Suicide terrorism, including 9/11, is a response to foreign occupation. In his influential 2005 book Dying to Win, political scientist Robert Pape examined a series of modern suicide campaigns and concluded that they are driven not by religious zeal but by foreign occupations

8.We are in a clash with a totalitarian ideology, similar to communism. The most serious proponent of this idea is Paul Berman, whose 2003 book Terror and Liberalism places "Binladenism" squarely in the tradition of modern millennial totalitarian ideologies such as fascism and communism


THE MOST CREDIBLE EXPLANATIONS

1.Radicalisation caused by the Afghan jihad during the Afghan war against the Soviet Union radicalised a generation of Arab militants.

2.A particular reading of Islamic texts.
a selective reading of the Koran and does not mean Islam is an inherently violent faith, but to believers the book is the word of God.
Decline and stagnation in the middle east and the "humiliation" of the Islamic world.
The economic and political failures in much of the Muslim world are underlined by statistics such as the fact that the non-oil revenues of all of the gulf states add up to less than the Gross domestic product of Finland.

3.The spread of communications technology.

4.Authoritarian middle east regimes helped incubate the militants.

5.The alienation of Muslim immigrants in the west.

6.US foreign policies in the middle east, in particular its support of Israel

))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
To conclude, 9/11 was collateral damage in a civil war within the world of political Islam. On one side there are those, like Bin Laden, who want to install Taliban-style theocracies from Indonesia to Morocco. On the other side there is a silent majority of Muslims who are prepared to deal with the west, who do not see the Taliban as a workable model for modern Islamic states, and who reject violence. Bin Laden adopted a war against "the far enemy" in order to hasten the demise of the "near enemy" regimes in the middle east. And he used 9/11 to advance that cause. That effort has, so far, largely failed.

Yet Bin Laden and his attacks on the US have shaped an ideological movement that will outlive him. Binladenism has drawn tremendous energy from the war in Iraq, and will probably gain further adherents from the conflict in Lebanon. Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak was prescient when he warned in 2003 that the Iraq war would spawn "100 new Bin Ladens." It is that new generation of militants that is Bin Laden's legacy.



What were the causes of 9/11?
by Peter Bergen

Ergotelina said...

ΠΡΟΣΩΠΙΚΕΣ ΑΝΑΜΝΗΣΕΙΣ ΑΠΟ ΤΗΝ 11η ΣΕΠΤΕΜΒΡΙΟΥ 2001(COBDEN)

Ergotelina said...

..................................


Η

"ORIANA FALLACI"

ΓΡΑΦΕΙ ΓΙΑ ΕΚΕΙΝΗ ΤΗ ΜΕΡΑ...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriana_Fallaci

Haider Droubi said...

well... all the muslims disagree with any sucide accident like 9/11....but they can hardly stop it cos it is a reaction of the unfair policy of the great power in the west against the arab nation..now these extreme actions didnt exist before 20 years ago although islam had been there for 1500 years ago...why???
the extemists of islam were created as a reaction for the extremists of the unfair policy against the arabs..we ..the moderate muslims (who r 99% of muslim world)want to end those extreme reactions by stopping the extreme action of the western policy....other wise we will be
helpless...and victims also..

conspiracy theory...it can decieve many people...but belive me ..when y see the real news..the real things happening in the middle east y will be shocked that the international media doesnt show ...then y will not even bother about any theory..cos u will be freightned...
and the crusades did a big mistake to arabs (both muslims and christians)..just watch hollywood movie''kingdom of heaven' and y will see the reality of the crusades...but we consider this as history and dont look back...
again...

peace...

fatwords said...

There is no moderate Islam.

Only moderate Muslims.

Ergotelina said...

@Haider Droubi

tasharrafna

but I think what you said about moderate muslims (who r 99% of muslim world is too much...

In many muslim countries
they are afraid of radicals
grabbing the power...

Algeria for example...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_Civil_War
That s why US supports Secular Authoritarianism

Read this
I'm No "Moderate" Muslim
by Yousef Drummond


Yvonne Ridley who is also converted
does not like the term "moderate muslim"

What exactly means by you?...Reforming?...
Peaceful reading of Islamic texts?..Innovations?..

Ergotelina said...

USA supported Islam against Soviets.
Stallone was fighting nearby Talibans

Ergotelina said...

@brain_deficit

Welcome

Moderate Muslims will create
a moderate Islam

it s an Interpretation Issue
of the texts


Nato protected also Muslims in Balkans

Ergotelina said...

As for Arab muslims

ROAD MAP FOR PEACE



The principles of the plan were first outlined by U.S. President George W. Bush in a speech on June 24, 2002, in which he called for an independent Palestinian state living side by side with Israel in peace.

In exchange for statehood, the road map requires the Palestinian Authority to make democratic reforms and abandon the use of terrorism. Israel, for its part, must support and accept the emergence of a reformed Palestinian government and end settlement activity of the Gaza Strip and West Bank as the Palestinian terrorist threat is removed.

Ergotelina said...

Both Vice-President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the US was now safer than it was before the 2001 attacks.

Mr Cheney said: "There has not been another attack on the United States. And that's not an accident."


US remembers 9/11 five years on(BBC)

Ergotelina said...

Is the world any safer?


Five years after the September 11 attacks, governments have invested billions of dollars to strengthen their anti-terrorist defenses, and tighter security checks have become a routine part of daily life around the world.

But increased awareness has arguably been matched by a rising threat, as a more diffuse and elusive al Qaeda has mobilized recruits among disaffected young Muslims in the heart of Western societies.

"I believe the threat has probably increased in western Europe, but we have responded and we are more resilient. And therefore risk, if it's a product of those two, is probably similar," said Rob Preston, terrorism risk consultant at AON insurance brokerage in London.

"I certainly don't think we're any safer, put it that way."

.............................
Inbar is also scathing about what he sees as a lack of progress since September 11 in aviation security, with continued over-reliance on old-fashioned metal detector gateways.

"A terrorist doesn't need to have a metal weapon. He can use a plastic knife. He can go into an aircraft, break a glass and make a knife out of the glass. He can break a Coca-Cola can and make a knife out of it."

A metal detector costs less than $10,000 to buy, but $1 million in wages to operate over a six- to seven-year life, Inbar said.

"All the metal detectors you have around are actually an aspirin for a cancer patient, and a very expensive one."


No let-up in terrorist risk 5 years after Sept 11(Yahoo)

Greg said...

Μια και σχολίασες στο ανάλογο post των roosters, πάρτο αλλιώς από μένα...

FreeCyprus said...

>>
ETL, thanks for visiting my blog..

Support for terrorism is falling among Arab and European Muslims, according to the 2006 Pew Global Attitudes opinion poll.

Syrian director Najdat Anzour is dramatizing that opinion for a mass audience in his Ramadan special.

Anzour's message is not subtle: Terrorists are cold-blooded killers who also kill Muslims.

Read more here...

FreeCyprus said...

ETL, I think you are misreading GW Bush and The Whitehouse.

They are saying "We are not against Muslims, but we will hunt down terrorists in the US and all over the world. Thanks Osama."

Ergotelina said...

Greg
Kαι εμεις τί θα διαλέξουμε
απο τους δύο;;;...

FreeCyprus
1.The conversations across the Middle East are loud and often heated, but they go mostly unnoticed in the West
..................................
Thank you for the link
Najdat Anzour Syrian director...

2.
What misreading do you mean?
That was a response to
http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

Bush said
"ISLAM is PEACE" Says President GW BUSH

THEY LOVE AMERICA JUST AS MUCH AS I DO

These words from Bush is about CAIR

and Muslims in US
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html

Off course Usama is not his favorite..

Joshua said...

Sim, Ergotelina, havia portugueses entre as vítimas das torres, mas as suas histórias pessoais não reparei terem sido mencionadas durante este dia.

Filákia

Joshua

Χρήστος Φασούλας said...

Και τι, δηλαδή, θες, ακόμα δε γύρισα, να τα διαβάσω όλ' αυτά;
Πας καλά;

:))

Ζαρατούστρα said...

Hey muslims should apologize... as well as russians for killing 400,000 muslims in Grozny, Chechenya...

Dont you agree?

Δεν συμφωνείς;

Μήπως να αρχίσουμε τον λογαριασμό;

Ergotelina said...

400.00?..

How many Russians,Chechens
and other nuetral local residents?..
.....

Anyhow, whatever the truth is, according to these unofficial figures, the war in Chechnya results much more costly than Afghanistan. The shorter Chechen wars have been far more deadly for Russian forces than the Soviet war in Afghanistan, in which an estimated 14,000 Soviet forces were killed and 35,000 wounded over close to a decade of combat. Its is no wonder that Russian authorities hide their own public opinion the truth.

So, for the period from 1994 to 2003 estimates range from Chechen 50,000 to 250,000 civilians and 10,000 to 50,000 Russian servicemen. Given that almost certainly both sides have tended to exaggerate enemy military casualties while minimizing their own and grossly underestimating its responsibility for civilian losses, setting the death toll, from the beginning of the first war to present days, at 150,000 - 200,000 civilians, about 20,000 - 40,000 Russian soldiers and possibly the same amount of Chechen rebels, is a plausible estimate (and still perhaps a too conservative one). There are however well founded analysis which came to different conclusions (for instance Norbert Strade, the list moderator of the Yahoo mailing list on Chechnya, gives a quite different picture on the casualties -

Civil and military casualties of the wars in Chechnya

Ergotelina said...

Here is a Russian who apologies for the russian crimes in Chechenya

although his Yabloko party has only
% of the vote Duma seats
1993 7.86% 27
1995 6.89% 45
1999 5.93% 20
2003 4.30% 4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yabloko

Russian liberal Yabloko party leader Grigoriy Yavlinsky urged President Vladimir Putin to put an end to the war in Chechnya, which he described as pure "bloodshed" and a "political adventure", and launch negotiations with rebel leader Aslan Maskhadov. He also said that Russian army colonel Yury Budanov, accused of murdering a Chechen girl, should be convicted. The following are excerpts from Yavlinskiy's interview to Russian Channel 3 on 3 October:

Russian liberal politician calls for end to the Chechen war

Ergotelina said...

(((((*..On this day I will also say that I am glad that I did not make it to the area; because I would have beat the hell out of those tasteless and disrepectful protesters who made a fool of themselves on this day.

This is also a day that bares witness to the ignorace and stupidity of the majority of Muslims who still belive in conspiracy therories.

(9/11 by American-Muslim Umar Lee)

candyblue said...

Κακό ψόφο να’ χουν, καθόλου δεν τους λυπάμαι.
όποιος έχει πολύ πιπέρι βάζει και στα λάχανα που λένε..

Άλλωστε αυτοί το πρότειναν πρώτοι στις ταινίες τους,έναν αιώνα πριν

Η καταστροφή είναι θέαμα και το θέαμα γιορτή γιατί τονίζει ότι υπάρχουν.

Πως αλλιώς αφού δεν έχουν μνήμη.
Δεδομένου ότι η μνήμη προσδιορίζει το "είναι" του καθενός(προσώπου ή έθνους) και δεδομένου ότι η μνήμη είναι η α-λήθεια (η μη λήθη δηλαδή ), οι Αμερικάνοι την έχουν βάψει.

candyblue said...

το ίδιο κεφάλι είχε και ο μέγας Αλέξανδρος
Απλώς εδώ ο φαλλός είναι δικός μας και τον υποστηρίζουμε.

Στο διάολο τα burger
και οι ιμπεριαλισμοί,υπάρχει και ένας άλλος κόσμος,που όλοι κάποτε θα πάμε...

Τι μάταιος κόσμος χριστέ μου
Πόσες ωραίες Ελένες πια?


Πόσα συμπλέγματα θα ανεχτεί ακόμα η ανθρωπότητα με όλους αυτούς τους παλαβούς εντελώς ηλίθιους και τους γύρω τους
έλεος πια
Και όλα αυτά επειδή κανείς δεν τους έπαιζε όταν ήτανε μικροί...

Φοράω την στολή-αρχίδι και κατευθύνομαι στη Santa blue...
Και αρχίζω να γράφω τα πάντα που θέλω να μας αφήσουν επιτέλους ήσυχους πάνω στη στολή-αρχίδι όσο βυθίζομαι

Ergotelina said...

Λυπήσου τουλάχιστον την αγαπημενη σου
Candy Darling
που γεννηθηκε στη Nεα Υόρκη...

:(

candyblue said...

Πάει αυτή, μας άφησε χρόνους...
Εμάς αλήθεια πέρα από τη μάνα μας και τον πατέρα μας ποιος μας λυπάται?



Way back deep into the brain
Back where there's never any pain
And the rain falls gently on the town
And over the heads of all of us
And in the labyrinth of streams
Beneath, the quiet unearthly presence of
gentle hill dwellers, in the gentle hills around
Reptiles abounding
Fossils, caves, cool air heights

Each house repeats a mold
Windows rolled
Beast car locked in against morning
All now sleeping
Rugs silent, mirrors vacant
Dust Lying under the beds of lawful couples
Wound in sheets
And daughters, smug
With semen eyes in their nipples

Wait
There's been a slaughter here

Ergotelina said...

Wait!
There's been Terroristas here!
Don't stop to speak or look around.
Your gloves and fan are on the ground.
We're getting out of town.
We're going on the run.
And you're the one I want to come.

candyblue said...

Not to touch the earth
Not to see the sun
Nothing left to do, but
Run, run, run
Let's run
lets run

House upon the hill
Moon is lying still
Shadows of the trees
Witnessing the wild breeze
C'mon baby run with me
Let's run

Run with me
Run with me
Run with me
Let's run

The mansion is warm, at the top of the hill
Rich are the rooms and the comforts there
Red are the arms of luxuriant chairs
And you won't know a thing till you get inside

Dead president's corpse in the driver's car
The engine runs on glue and tar
C'mon along, we're not going very far
To the East to meet the Czar

run with me
run with me
run with me
let's run

Some outlaws lived by the side of the lake
The minister's daughter's in love with the snake
Who lives in a well by the side of the road
Wake up, girl! We're almost home

We should see the gates by mornin'
We should be inside by evening,

sun sun sun
burn burn burn
burn, burn, burn,
i will get you
soon,
soon,
soon

i am the lizard king
i can do anything

Ergotelina said...

Oh! You the lizard king.
could you do anything?...

Could you stop the War?
Could you love and forgive the Warriors?


We-e came do-wn the rivers.. and highways.
We-e came do-wn from.. forests and falls.
We-e came do-wn from.. Carson and Springfield.
We-e came do-wn from.. Phoenix enthralled.

And I can tell you.. the names of the.. kingdom.
I-I can tell you.. the things.. that you know.
Listening fo-r.. a fist-full of silence.
Cli-imbing va-alleys in-to the.. shade.

For seven years I dwelt in the loose palace of exile..
Playing strange games with the girls of the island.
Now I have come again to the land of the fair and the strong and the wise.
Brother and sisters of the pale forest, children of night.
Who among you will run with the hunt.
Now night arrives with her purple legion.
Retire now to your tents and to your dreams.
Tomorrow, we enter the town of my birth..
I want you to be ready.

candyblue said...

Ο lizard king δεν σταματάει τίποτα. Ξεκινάει. όλα όσα πιστεύει ότι μπορεί να γίνει.
όλα όσα κάνεις φαντάζεται,ότι μπορεί να κάνει
Ο lizard king μετακινεί τα όρια για να αποδείξει ότι όρια δεν υπήρχαν ποτέ.

Πάρε κι ένα φιλί.

Ergotelina said...

Retire now to your tents and to your dreams.
Tomorrow, we enter the town of my birth..
I want you to be ready.

))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

or else we ll go back to square one
cause i am green
Hill Dweller
not accustommed to live in Cities Blue like you

candyblue said...

Δηλώνω έρωτα με την εξυπνάδα σου

Είσαι φοβερή...
Κατάλαβε το πια.

(Τώρα πέρα από την πλάκα κυρία ορεσίβια μου κάνει εντύπωση να αρπάζω τι κομματάκι μου από το κομμεντολόγιο σου και πόσο μάλλον σε χρόνο dt)

candyblue said...

Και βγάλε πια αυτή την φωτογραφίαααααααααααα

Ergotelina said...

@Και όμως οι Βόρειες Ξανθιές έχουν μυαλό....
Γι αυτό οι Αθηναίες τις ζηλευουν...

Tünaydın!-(Good Night)
Şeker Mavi!-(Candy Blue) öpücükler!-(Kisses)

:-o)

mademoiselle P said...

es tan atroz teñir de dolor y de miedo los recuerdos... si bien no hay disculpas que puedan borrar las heridas, tampoco se puede vivir pensando en los dolores... Se han tenido, han enseñado su lección y quedan como testimonio de vida, pero no podemos aferrarnos a ellos...

Το σωστό να λέγεται said...

Εξαιρετικό το post σου Λίνα.

Κάτι ακόμα μια αναλυτική περιγραφή του τι έγινε, απο ποιούς και πότε.

Επίσημη έκθεση της επιτροπής για την 11η Σεπτεμβρίου


Επίσης ένα ποιηματάκι που μου στείλαν με E-Mail γραμμένο πολύ πριν την τρομοκρατική επίθεση, αλλά νομίζω σχετικό.

Riding the Elevator Into the Sky

By Anne Sexton (1975)


As the fireman said:
Don't book a room over the fifth floor
in any hotel in New York.
They have ladders that will reach further
but no one will climb them.
As the New York Times said:
The elevator always seeks out
the floor of the fire
and automatically opens
and won't shut.
These are the warnings
that you must forget
if you're climbing out of yourself.
If you're going to smash into the sky.

Many times I've gone past
the fifth floor,
cranking upward,
but only once
have I gone all the way up.
Sixtieth floor:
small plants and swans bending
into their grave.
Floor two hundred:
mountains with the patience of a cat,
silence wearing its sneakers.
Floor five hundred:
messages and letters centuries old,
birds to drink,
a kitchen of clouds.
Floor six thousand:
the stars,
skeletons on fire,
their arms singing.
And a key,
a very large key,
that opens something –
some useful door –
somewhere –
up there.


http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch1.htm

Το σωστό να λέγεται said...

Όσο για τον κωμικό σπανιόλο και χόμο ο άνθρωπος προσπαθεί να βγάλει το ψωμί του.
Ξέρεις τον συναγωνισμό που υπάρχει στις ΗΠΑ μεταξύ των κωμικών (standup comedians);

Τις συγγνώμες για τις σταυροφορίες τις είπε πολύ σωστά ο προηγούμενος πάπας,
Pope John Paul II.

Ergotelina said...

Eυχαριστώ για το ποίημα..

Carlos Mencia performs a right-wing braggadocio comic show.....


"He is real American,non-white
and does not
apologize for what his country did"..

he has a comic talent
but i have to remark that ...


Hispanic Soldiers Die in Greater Numbers in Iraq

Το σωστό να λέγεται said...

"Blackie, dorkie, cracker follow me to take revenge for the WTC to go after Ahmet".

Καλά τα λέει μόνο που αυτοί φύγανε ενώ ο Κάρλος είναι ακόμη εδώ διασκεδάζοντας τον φόβο του ακροατηρίου.

Πρέπει να παραδεχθούμε όμως ότι το comedy delivery του είναι μοναδικά πατριωτικό.
He is a homeboy.

georg said...

Hi ergo te lina!

Thankyou for the music. Yes, that date 9/11/2001 a lot of things changed.. Very, very sad.

thanks for visiting my blog. I can tell you, that the image of ruins is from Berlin, 1945 - so you're quite right.

hugs from denmark - georg

FreeCyprus said...

>>
Arab and Iranian Reaction to 9/11

“When the twin towers collapsed… My lungs filled with air and I breathed in relief, as I had never breathed before."
-- Ali Uqleh Ursan, Syrian Arab Writers Association chairman Al-Usbu' Al-Adabi (Damascus)

"Oh Osama...you are a hero in the full sense of the word."
-- Muslim Brotherhood

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It is not up to us non-Muslims to understand moderate Muslims.

It is up to moderate Muslims to stand up against those who use violence and pervert Islam for their own means.

Ergotelina said...

Welcome Georg
Thank you for the information
about the photo


@FreeCyprus

THE TERRORIST STATE OF SYRIA
KILLED THE TERRORISTS
AND SAVED AMERICAN EMBASSY


............................
Attack on U.S. embassy foiled
Syrian forces kill three armed assailants, wound fourth during battle in Damascus

PAUL KORING

WASHINGTON -- Islamic terrorists attacked the heavily fortified U.S. embassy compound in Damascus yesterday but failed to penetrate it after a fierce gun battle with Syrian security forces.

At least one Syrian guard employed by the embassy was killed and several policemen were injured. Three of the four assailants were killed and one was wounded, according to Syrian authorities.

Four gun-toting men shouting "Allahu akbar" opened fire in a brazen mid-morning attack. Heavy gunfire erupted as Syrian security forces responded. U.S. Marines, inside the compound, were not involved in the battle, which lasted, according to some eyewitness reports, nearly 10 minutes.

Two vehicles, both laden with explosives, were reportedly involved. One detonated and burned outside the embassy, causing little damage. The other failed to explode.


Top Bush administration officials, usually harshly critical of the Baathist regime in Damascus, initially expressed their gratitude.

"The Syrians reacted to this attack in a way that helped to secure our people, and we very much appreciate that,
" said U.S. State Secretary Condoleezza Rice, in Canada on an official visit.

But the usual enmity quickly returned.

Mr. Bush's "policies in the Middle East have fuelled extremism, terrorism and anti-U.S. sentiment," the Syrian government said in a statement issued by its embassy in Washington. It said Syrian security forces fought bravely to defend the U.S. embassy.


>Read more from Google News




DAMASCUS — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday the US was grateful for Syria’s response to an attack against the US embassy in Damascus.

The top US diplomat said it was unclear who was responsible for the attack and said: “I was very grateful that the attack did not succeed.”

read more

Ergotelina said...

Institute for the Secularization
of Islamic Society



A Muslim Apology for 9/11?

By Irfan Khawaja


Irfan Khawaja is adjunct professor of philosophy at The College of New Jersey, Montclair State University, and Felician College.

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